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Postby Thrustin Jeroux » Sat Sep 21, 2019 11:06 am

I also liked that it felt like a studio film that hasn’t been made in awhile
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Postby deadwolfbones » Sat Sep 21, 2019 11:09 am

soft milk wrote:I also liked that it felt like a studio film that hasn’t been made in awhile


Yeah, this was cool.
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Postby pzadvance » Sat Sep 21, 2019 11:46 am

soft milk wrote:I also liked that it felt like a studio film that hasn’t been made in awhile

This was my favorite stuff, esp. the speculative sci-fi elements. Capitalism reaching outer space, turning everything into a mall, the Wild West of the moon, etc. kinda forgot how much fun it can be when the near future is depicted in really thoughtful and realistic ways, instead of just FLYING CARS and JET PACKS!!

I think the VO was mostly really poorly written and the father/son drama was well considered but too often verged into grandiose declarations that took me out of it. I was most moved by pitt trying to console his dad about not finding alien life—“now we know. We’re all we’ve got.”Toggle Spoiler I’m not a huge gray fan by any means but i came down on the side that I’m glad this exists in spite of its flaws
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Postby Feech La Manna » Sat Sep 21, 2019 12:13 pm

I liked it! Ending was kind of a mess but a lot to love up until then.
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Postby CelticFC#1 » Sat Sep 21, 2019 12:22 pm

The Natasha Lyonne cameo.

‘Mars. What a concept!’
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Postby Feech La Manna » Sat Sep 21, 2019 12:23 pm

the production design of everything Mars was pretty great
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Postby Feech La Manna » Sat Sep 21, 2019 12:24 pm

when Negga said she lived there her whole life I gasped a little
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Postby Buzz Fledderjohn » Sat Sep 21, 2019 12:37 pm

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soft milk wrote:I also liked that it felt like a studio film that hasn’t been made in awhile

This was my favorite stuff, esp. the speculative sci-fi elements. Capitalism reaching outer space, turning everything into a mall, the Wild West of the moon, etc. kinda forgot how much fun it can be when the near future is depicted in really thoughtful and realistic ways, instead of just FLYING CARS and JET PACKS!!

I think the VO was mostly really poorly written and the father/son drama was well considered but too often verged into grandiose declarations that took me out of it. I was most moved by pitt trying to console his dad about not finding alien life—“now we know. We’re all we’ve got.”Toggle Spoiler I’m not a huge gray fan by any means but i came down on the side that I’m glad this exists in spite of its flaws


the sad port authority like vibe of the moon def resonated
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Postby mego » Sat Sep 21, 2019 5:19 pm

Would have preferred less or even no voiceover and the allegedly tacked on action sequences removed. Remove parts of the end that try and close up any loose ends too.

If you’re going to have a movie about solitude then don’t pander to the audience by providing monologues or shoe horning action sequences. Just go all out.
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Postby rixx » Sat Sep 21, 2019 5:24 pm

Saw this in a matinee at the 34th st AMC. I liked this film a lot but I will say this, this was the strangest movie going experience I’ve ever had. This had the most asleep snoring men I’ve ever heard, all taking place in the second act. There was like three snorers going in at once in this cacophonous symphony. Really had a negative effect in some of the quieter scenes.
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Postby Thrustin Jeroux » Sat Sep 21, 2019 5:25 pm

The action scenes were definitely not tacked on though lol
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Postby Feech La Manna » Sat Sep 21, 2019 5:30 pm

They weren’t even really “action sequences” they were just fairly brief incidents of chaos/violence that weren’t out of place with the rest of the movie
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Postby Eyeball Kid » Sat Sep 21, 2019 5:30 pm

The action scenes were also really well-staged. Gray may have included them for funding purposes, but they were really well done.
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Postby Feech La Manna » Sat Sep 21, 2019 5:36 pm

imagine caring about anything as much as this fucking dipshit cares about the tomatometer

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Postby Eyeball Kid » Sat Sep 21, 2019 5:38 pm

Feech La Manna wrote:They weren’t even really “action sequences” they were just fairly brief incidents of chaos/violence that weren’t out of place with the rest of the movie

I think the "hopeful" ending is the only part of the movie that really stuck out given how grim the bulk of what came before it was, but, as I've said, it didn't bother me so much.
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Postby hyperbole man » Sat Sep 21, 2019 5:49 pm

it sounds like the moon chase/shootout and the baboon fight were both in the original script and in the cut whose test screenings prompted reshoots. i think the added stuff mostly had to do with liv tyler tbh. and probably the ending yeah.
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Postby hyperbole man » Sat Sep 21, 2019 5:51 pm

anyway i thought this was great. still turning it over in my mind but it is possibly my 2nd fav gray, behind two lovers.

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Postby Eyeball Kid » Sat Sep 21, 2019 5:54 pm

As I've said earlier in the thread, the Liv Tyler scenes didn't feel germane to the film at all. I think outside of that there was enough in the film to indicate why his character was depressed, but studios were putting a lot of money into this, so ya know
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Postby auspice » Sat Sep 21, 2019 8:40 pm

CelticFC#1 wrote:The Natasha Lyonne cameo.

‘Mars. What a concept!’


hated that tbh. I might be in the minority on this one but I can't stand when "serious" movies throw in unexpected cameos that are so clearly meant to serve the specific actor/actress. like it was literally just her Russian Doll character, it was such an obviously self-promotional/performative thing. I don't know why directors who are trying to make something serious agree to that
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Postby auspice » Sat Sep 21, 2019 8:42 pm

Feech La Manna wrote:imagine caring about anything as much as this fucking dipshit cares about the tomatometer



wait, are alt-right people/lolbertarians against this film for a specific reason? I can't think of anything that felt intentionally PC, is it purely because the government is portrayed as villainous (AKA realistic) in this? Since when do libertarians of the Tim Pool reality want to see government portrayed positively?
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Postby Ersaph » Sat Sep 21, 2019 8:51 pm

Good flick. I definitely think how good you find it ties to how you feel about your dad though.
And I feel like this year is really about, just the year of realizing stuff.
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Postby auspice » Sat Sep 21, 2019 8:59 pm

Ersaph wrote:Good flick. I definitely think how good you find it ties to how you feel about your dad though.


I have lukewarm feelings about my dad and had lukewarm feelings about this film so yeah you're probably right
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Postby buttre » Sat Sep 21, 2019 9:47 pm

Feech La Manna wrote:imagine caring about anything as much as this fucking dipshit cares about the tomatometer



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Postby a long gush from your hole » Sat Sep 21, 2019 9:56 pm

Feech La Manna wrote:imagine caring about anything as much as this fucking dipshit cares about the tomatometer


this idiot doesn't even know how the meter works lmao
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Postby bold man » Sat Sep 21, 2019 10:05 pm

auspice wrote:
CelticFC#1 wrote:The Natasha Lyonne cameo.

‘Mars. What a concept!’


hated that tbh. I might be in the minority on this one but I can't stand when "serious" movies throw in unexpected cameos that are so clearly meant to serve the specific actor/actress. like it was literally just her Russian Doll character, it was such an obviously self-promotional/performative thing. I don't know why directors who are trying to make something serious agree to that


gotta agree with this, especially considering how much face paint she was wearing on mars
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Postby ashtrayheart » Sat Sep 21, 2019 11:06 pm

thought this was a masterpiece, an almost perfect movie. really loved how simple it was, it felt fresh. loved neptune!
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Postby ashtrayheart » Sat Sep 21, 2019 11:11 pm

brad pitt is having one of the best damn careers
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Postby nice pass » Sat Sep 21, 2019 11:12 pm

does se7777en hold up

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Postby Thrustin Jeroux » Sat Sep 21, 2019 11:16 pm

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Postby number none » Sat Sep 21, 2019 11:19 pm

auspice wrote:
CelticFC#1 wrote:The Natasha Lyonne cameo.

‘Mars. What a concept!’


hated that tbh. I might be in the minority on this one but I can't stand when "serious" movies throw in unexpected cameos that are so clearly meant to serve the specific actor/actress. like it was literally just her Russian Doll character, it was such an obviously self-promotional/performative thing. I don't know why directors who are trying to make something serious agree to that


James Gray wrote:I lived until very recently in an old apartment building called the El Royale, which was built in 1929, which for Los Angeles is extremely old. George Raft … a big movie star in the ’30s and ’40s, lived in the building, and Mae West lived across the street.

Anyway, every Sunday night, I make dinner … and we have a lot of guests, and it’s a wonderful thing. And one day, I’m walking down the hall, and I see Natasha Lyonne walking towards me, and she says, [extremely Natasha Lyonne voice] “Honey, I know who you are. You’re James Gray.”

“You’re Natasha Lyonne.”

And she says, “I’m smelling it. Every Sunday, I smell it. Every Sunday. What are you doing to me? What are you doing to me?”

“Would you like to come in and have dinner with us?”

She said, “Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I would.”

Natasha Lyonne joined us for dinner, and in the middle of it she said, “What are you doing now? What are you doing now?”

I said, “I’m doing this movie [in which] Brad Pitt goes to space.”

She goes [still with the New York accent], “Brad Pitt goes to space? What am I doing in it?”

I said, “The movie is Brad Pitt and Brad Pitt alone.”

She said: “I’m in it. I’m in it.”

Months later, I called her up, when we were getting closer to production. I said, “Would you come do one day for me?” Because I do love her … I mean, she’s a great actor. And I’ve known her work from Slums of Beverly Hills. She used to date Edward Furlong, who was in the first film I ever did, which was a movie called Little Odessa. He was 16 years old at the time.

In any event, to make a long story longer, she comes to set, and she’s incapable of an uninteresting moment, which is weird because it was supposed to be just a cameo. … And I kept seeing the cameraman keep putting the camera on Natasha Lyonne. I said, “Listen, buddy, I got Brad Pitt in the movie.”
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